Stepping the Shaft - Please Explain

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By Mark A

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  1. Mark A

    Mark A
    Bayswater, VIC

    G'day, I am a 5 marker and have been playing the 710 MB's for some time now and love them.

    I have Dynamic Gold S300 shafts in them but when I was being fit for them, it was suggested that I step the shafts. I am 6 foot tall and my fitter suggested that they could put an 4 iron shaft in my 3 iron and so on.

    I recently read an article about some Tour pros doing the opposite, that is putting a 3 iron shaft in their 4 irons. I hit a nice little draw on my irons but I have lost about half a club in distance and the flight is lower than normal. The distance is not a real issue, but I would like to hit my irons a little higher, particularly my long irons.

    When the 712 MB's finally hit the market, I would be looking to upgrade and was wondering if anyone could suggest why Tour pros would be doing this with their shafts. I could understand it if they were taller but these guys were on the shorter side of 6 foot. I figure it has got something to do with the kick point, but not sure.

    Did my fitter give me a bum steer?

  2. Ryan Crysler

    Ryan Crysler
    West Palm Beach, FL

    A bum steer!  Can I start using that?  :)

    Sounds like you were fitted with a hardstep which basically helps the irons play a little stiffer.  Almost as if you are between an X and an S flex.  Sometimes pros do the opposite to maintain the same weight and feel, but prefer the shaft playing softer. 

    I would suggest checking the lofts on the irons, and maybe bumping them weaker one or two degrees first, since we've got the shafts in.  If the flight is too low, we can increase the launch and spin and potential have more carry.

    RC 

  3. Mark A

    Mark A
    Bayswater, VIC

    "A bum steer!  Can I start using that?  :)

    Sounds like you were fitted with a hardstep which basically helps the irons play a little stiffer.  Almost as if you are between an X and an S flex.  Sometimes pros do the opposite to maintain the same weight and feel, but prefer the shaft playing softer. 

    I would suggest checking the lofts on the irons, and maybe bumping them weaker one or two degrees first, since we've got the shafts in.  If the flight is too low, we can increase the launch and spin and potential have more carry.

    RC"  

    Hi RC,

    you're free to use it, I don't have a copyright on it lol....

    It's actually a commonly used term here Down Under, for when someone you rely on for advice gives you wrong information.

    Makes sense to me now because my swing speed was right in the middle of Stiff and X-Stiff. I will have the lofts checked and take it from there.

    Thanks for your input, and thanks also for your short game tips. They have been sensational!

    I only get to play once a week and they have come in really handy keeping my scores down.

    Cheers,

    Mark

  4. Ryan Crysler

    Ryan Crysler
    West Palm Beach, FL

    I knew it either Aussie or Kiwi. Very nice! Please let us know what you find and report back! Thanks for using my tips!
  5. Mark A

    Mark A
    Bayswater, VIC

    Hey there RC,

    funny thing happened on the weekend.

    A mate and I were about to tee off on the first hole when we discovered that we were both about to use the same ball, Pro V1  - Number 3.

    Being the courteous guy that I am, I offered to change ball.

    Off into my bag I went and pulled out a new sleeve of Number 4's.

    First ball out of the sleeve was, wait for it, a Pro V1x !

    I decided to give it a try anyway and the rest is history. My ball flight miraculously was noticeably higher, I gained all of my lost distance back and my little draw was still there.

    I hit more greens and if I continue doing so, I reckon I can sacrifice a little short -game stopping power.

    Problem solved! 

  6. Ryan Crysler

    Ryan Crysler
    West Palm Beach, FL

    Fate and the Golf Gods are serious!

     

    Very nice!

     

    RC

  7. Cath D.

    Cath D.
    Carlsbad, CA

    We would hard step or soft step a shaft if we needed a shaft to play slightly firmer (hard step) or slightly softer (soft step).  To hard step a shaft, we would put a 4 iron shaft into a 3 iron head and to soft step, we would put the 3 iron shaft into a 4 iron head.

  8. Quintin H

    Quintin H
    Morehead, KY

    here is one time this statement is true, "size doesn't matter"

    You are not taking a shaft out of a 4i and putting in a 3 iron, or taking a 3i shaft out and putting in a 4i.

    Here is where the tip section comes into play. The 4i tip is a little stiffer than the 3i tip, because the 3i is slightly lighter than the 4i. Thus you put the 4i shaft into a 3i and the 3i now has a little stiffer shaft, put the 3i shaft in the 4i and you now have a little weaker shaft.

    But it doesn't stop there, shafts are made longer than what they will be used, so after you put the wrong shaft in the club, you then cut to length. A 4i shaft can be cut to a 3i length.

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