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By P Ford

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  1. P Ford

    P Ford
    Memphis, TN

    I am looking for a new wedge. I have a 48 degree right now and there is too big of a gap between that and my 9 iron (25+ yards). I hit my 9 iron about 135-140 and my 48 degree 115 if hit really well. I was wondering what loft I should get to narrow that gap down. If a Titleist rep would respond along with everybody else that would be great. Love the feedback. Thanks.

     

    Proctor

  2. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    What happened to the wedge in your set? They generally get better distance. I tried a 48 and it was good for about 100 yards. I traded it for a 58-12 and went back to using my set wedges. I get 10 more yards out of my DCI P (47) and the same yardage out of the W (51). You can also work your 9 iron by choking down. For every 1/2 inch you choke down, you take off 10 yards. I had the same thing with my DIY set (Snake Eyes Q3I). It didn't have a gap wedge so I had a 25 yard gap between the PW and SW. I got rather adept at working the PW. My clubs were spaced by 15 yards in that set.
  3. P Ford

    P Ford
    Memphis, TN

    Lou G said:

    What happened to the wedge in your set? They generally get better distance. I tried a 48 and it was good for about 100 yards. I traded it for a 58-12 and went back to using my set wedges. I get 10 more yards out of my DCI P (47) and the same yardage out of the W (51). You can also work your 9 iron by choking down. For every 1/2 inch you choke down, you take off 10 yards. I had the same thing with my DIY set (Snake Eyes Q3I). It didn't have a gap wedge so I had a 25 yard gap between the PW and SW. I got rather adept at working the PW. My clubs were spaced by 15 yards in that set.

    I am 14 years old and had to buy my ping i15's with my own money (i got fitted for them) I didnt have enough money to purchase the pitching wedge though I should have. Like Cameron D said, I think im going to get a 46 degree, dont know about an SM 4 because they are really expensive and like I said, everything in my golf bag i bought. I think I might just find a good deal on a used one at Edwin Watts. Thanks for the feedback though.

  4. Cameron D

    Cameron D
    Newport, RI

    Proctor, 

    From what you described for your yardages, you would be a perfect candidate for our new SM4 46* Vokey coming our in Mid November.  This may require you to re-evaluate your gaping through all of your wedges, but that 46* should work perfectly to fill 120-125 yardage gap. 

    Cameron

    1-888-TITLEIST

  5. Jakes D

    Jakes D

    Proctor, this is interesting, almost all people will recommend that you buy another wedge. Seve was a master with a PW from almost anywhere. considder this option. Go to a club fitter and let him measure all the lofts on your set. I am convinced that you have strong lofts throughout your set. let the clubfitter start with your 48 wedge and bend your 9 iron with a 4 degree gap and do this up the set to your longest iron. you now have a set with consistant lofts and consistant distances. If you then have a distance gap at the top end, get yourself a nich hybrid. with your wedges, PW 48 degrees then get a 52 bend to 53, this will give you a bid more bounce on the club and would be great from fairways, rough, and longer bunker shots and get a 58 sand /lob wedge. I play off a 2 handicap and have this set up. only differance is that my wedges are 48, 53 and 57. I have no use for a 60 or 62 wedge. the solegring on my Miura C grind 57 allow me to open the face and play the shots I need to play. ensure all you clubs are the right swing weight. People start buying wedges without making sure the rest of the set is set up properly. also when you have a drink after the round the one with the lowes core is the winner, not the one who hit his 45 degree PW 150 yrds.
  6. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    To be honest, I have streamlined my long game clubs down to driver, 3 and 7 woods and 5H. 15 yards spacing between each of the clubs between the 3W and 5H. There's this wonderful thing called "choking down" to shave distance. When I started playing golf in 1972, my first set was 3-4 woods, 3-5-7-9 irons, Haig Ultra Dual Wedge and putter. I played on the high school golf team with it and even broke 90 the first time. I also didn't play very much between 1977-2006 (and almost not at all between 1993-2006). I've been pretty comfortable with a 47 PW and 55 SW for 3 years now. No need for a gap wedge. The Vokey Spin-Milled c-c 54-11 (bent to 55) does a lot of things and it has been my go to club (the bottom line is that if there is turf, I would do a cut shot with a SW vs hitting a square face L-wedge). I decided to put a 58-12 back in my bag because I can do quite a bit with it. In regards to the 62-07.... it fits the way I play a short game (and my golfing partners and friends comment about how "pretty" my short game is). The 62-07 behaves more like a sand wedge because of its wider sole. I've had quite a few par and birdie saves with the 60-07 and 64-07 but they have their limitations. Have been reading some of the posts about how the concern is there is a 25 yard gap between PW and SW. Sometimes less is more. I could play golf with 10 clubs (driver, 7 wood, 5H, 7-PW, 54-11 and 62-07) and shoot a reasonable game of golf (one time I played a 2200 yd par 34 exec course with a 5 wood, 28-32-39H, PW-SW-LW and putter and managed to shoot 3 over par; it had a 485 yard par 5). About a year ago I played a round with a 980F 3 wood, Louisville persimmon 5 wood and 10 wood, 35H and 8-XW, and managed to shoot 42 for 9 holes on a 3100 yard layout from the blue tees. I'm not one to recommend someone go out and buy another new wedge. Places like Golfmart have a 90 day playability guarantee on used clubs. If you try a 52 deg wedge and don't like it, return it and if you do like it, keep it or trade up.
  7. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    Another thing is that a set wedge generally gets a few more yards vs a specialty wedge (such as a Vokey). I tried a Vokey Spin Milled 48-06 and found that the distance was 10 yards less vs my DCI P iron (47 deg). I took the 48-06 back to the store (and traded it for the 58-12, which I love to death) because I didn't feel comfortable with a 35.75" wedge. They design the specialty wedge for more spin (for stopping the ball), whereas a set wedge is designed for hitting full golf shots with a square stance.
  8. Jakes D

    Jakes D
    somerset west, 0

    lou sorry but this is not the case. a 47* wedge will hit a few yrds longer than a 48*  a lot of manufacturers are reducing lofts throughout the set to claim that their clubs are longer than the next. with lower centre of gravity, stronger lofts, higher flying balls and new shaft technology a pw today is yestrdays 9 iron  that is why we now have 48 and 50 degree gap wedges and we have become a wedge crazy golf bunch. look at the lofts op the pro's the play 48 or 47 * pw and the with 4 degree gaps inbetween clubs  the basics is that before people start to buy 5 wedges for all their fancy trick shots they must first understand their full set to cover the gaps. this should be the first aim with any wedge combination. thereafter work out how to optimise the wedges. combinations of half shots and choke down to cover inbetween shots. very few people will try and cover a 20 yrd gap between clubs by choking down on the longer club it is just not consistant enough.

  9. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    I hit the DCI Pitching Wedge (47) 10 yards farther than I did the Vokey Spin Milled 48-06. I didn't like the Vokey PW at all so I returned it and got a 58-12 (and love it to death). Another case in point is my old Q3I SW (55) hit about 5 yards farther than my current Vokey 54-12 (bent to 55) I'm pretty aware of old lofts vs new. Gotta remember that I also learned how to play golf in the good old days. A PW was 50 and a SW was 57 or 58. I have a set of Eye 2 irons in reserve and the 9 iron is 45 deg, the 8 is 40, the 7 is 36 and the 6 is 32. I also played with a Q3I 47 PW and 55 SW and got pretty adept at working them. I also used a 258-12 as a SW from 2007-2009 and could do a lot of stuff with it. I would say I have a pretty deadly short game.

  10. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    In regards to my statement about a set PW traveling 10 yards further than a 48-06, that was personal experience (which I mentioned earlier) and other golfers experiencing the same thing. Like Jakes, I learned how to play golf in the good old days of persimmon woods and blade irons. Wilson and Spalding were big names for golf clubs. Ping and Kenneth Smith were the boutique golf companies. Pitching wedges were 50 deg and SW were 57-58. Wilson X31s were the bomb because they had contoured soles. I've been pretty comfortable with 47PW and 55SW for some time now and am pretty adept at working them. I carried a 58 wedge (258-12 and CG15 DSG 58) between 2007 and 2010 and now I'm back to it (I can do quite a bit with one); I used a 60-07 for the past year and, although it did great shots (saved a few pars and got a handful of pitch in birdies), it has limitations. I tried a 52 Vokey and a 52 RAC and they weren't any value in my game. I did use a set gap wedge (51) between 2006-2008 and its main use was full shots between 80-100 yards (and that is basically my intent with the DCI wedge IF I USE IT - haven't yet). I've been using an X wedge (64) since 2006 and it has done some serious par saves. Main limitation is distance (40-50 yd for a full swing, 30 yd for a pitch). Their biggest point is the ball stops almost on the spot. A Wilson Harmonized TW does quite a bit (has a similar sole to a 62-07). The Alien 64-05 is good only for tight lies. The CG15 DSG and Vokey 64-07 have to be delofted a little on a tight lie, so better off with a 60; however, these two are good for small, deep bunkers with a tight pin position. The Vokey 62-07 is a rather versatile wedge. I found out in the past couple weeks how much I can do with one.
  11. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    The Vokey Spin Milled 58-12 does quite a bit. In hard sand you have to play a digging type of shot as opposed to blasting. The 60-07 tended to dig in soft sand but was good in wet or hard sand. The 64-07 didn't fare so well in wet or hard sand because of its sole. The 62-07 works well in wet/hard sand or soft sand.
  12. Carlo Angelo

    Carlo Angelo
    Rancho Cucamonga, CA

    Do you play w/ forged irons??? How long have you been playing with them??? Before buying I would suggest getting your 9 iron re-measured for loft. It might have bent stronger from normal use... especially with forged irons. This is what happened to me and a friend of mine. Try to keep a consistent loft differences with your short irons. Whether by bending or buying... good luck

  13. P Ford

    P Ford
    Memphis, TN

    Carlo Angelo I said:

    Do you play w/ forged irons??? How long have you been playing with them??? Before buying I would suggest getting your 9 iron re-measured for loft. It might have bent stronger from normal use... especially with forged irons. This is what happened to me and a friend of mine. Try to keep a consistent loft differences with your short irons. Whether by bending or buying... good luck

    I play with i15 (not titleist, i know) but they are inbetween forged and cavity

  14. Lou G

    Lou G
    San Diego, CA

    The issue is that most clubfitters will not mess with them. They usually send them back to the factory (I have a set of Eye 2 6-PW that I had flattened from green dot to yellow) and you also sign a waiver.

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