AP2 Irons question

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By Kyle C

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  1. I have been playing the TM R7 Irons with regular shaft flex for about 4 years now and my handicap is a 13. From a distance standpoint, I normally hit my 7 iron 165-170 yards. I recently went to my local golf store and demoed the AP2's, and enjoyed them.  I researched the specs (loft angles) between the R7's & AP2's, and the loft angles for the AP2's are a little more (my 7 iron is a 6 iron for the AP2's). However, my question or concern is do the AP2's suit my game or would the AP1's be better?

  2. Kyle they have standard and strong lofts avaialble in the AP2's. You could go either way the AP1 are a little more forgiving and produce a higher ball flight than the AP2's. Go to fittler and get on a launch monitor and try them out then you will know for sure.

     

    Garnet

  3. Clifford M

    Clifford M
    Lousiville, KY

    I hate to be this guy, but I would say, "it depends".  I play AP2's and love them, and my son plays AP1's and also loves them.  We are both single digit handicaps with decidedly different games.  I'm a "work the ball" player; little draws and cuts to get close to pins.  My son is a high, soft landing, straight ball hitter.  We learned the game in different eras.  My best advice would be to go to a certified fitter to maximize the performance of whatever you buy.  With respect to loft angles, that is an old industry trick going back to the Eye 2.  Before the days of launch monitors and spin rates, we all took all the clubs we were interested in to the range and whatever one we hit the furthest, we bought.  Ping figured out that, and made the loft on their irons stronger.  As a result, they went further and we ALL bought them.  My own personal opinion is that Titleist got the lofts right, because there is not so much of a gap between wedge lofts as there are amongst other manufacturers.

     

    So the bottom line to your question is what kind of shot is your "go to" shot?  If it's straight, buy the AP1's.  If it's a little draw or fade and you can predict it, get the AP2's.  But the crucial element of my response is get fit by a pro, on a launch monitor.  Swing speed, launch angle, and spin rates are so easily measured by todays fitters, that you can't really go wrong if you get a club that fits you.

  4. Tom S

    Tom S
    Elkton, FL

    Kyle, It sounds like either the AP1 or the AP2 will work for you, but the only way to know for sure is to visit a Titleist fitter so you can try both side-by-side. The AP1s are probably more similar to the R7s you currently play in both head size, loft, etc., but many players prefer the look, feel and performance of the AP2. Good luck!
  5. Tate J

    Tate J
    Ashland, KY

    I am a 8 handicap and I started out playing almost a year ago. I started of with the g5's. I recently bought the 712 ap2's and they are by farther best iron I've ever hit. To me they aren't that hard to control. For a forged iron they are pretty forgiving. I've also heard the 712 ap2's are as forgiving as the 710 ap1's. I'm not for sure if that's accurate but that's what I heard. Hope it helped some.
  6. Marc J

    Marc J
    Glendale Heights, IL

    From my perspective, I offer the following:

    Based upon the limited details of your game, I'd suggest we share some similarities.  During this past offseason, I made a firm commitment to move toward "player" clubs oppose to continually reap the benefits of "Game Improvement" clubs , with the purpose of elevating my golf game.  

    There were a few key factors that resulted in me moving in the forged iron direction:

    1. More compact design, reducing the bulk seen at address from an over-sized iron.
    2. The desire to have consistent distance and tighter shot dispersion
    3. The desire to rid myself of the "forgiveness" crutch inherited with cast iron cavity backs
    4. The desire to effectively shape shots and better work the ball

    That said, I have only been playing 3-years, during which time I played with X-18.  My swing has developed so, that I hit my irons consistently well and center of the face.  However, this is not to suggest that I completely avoid the occasional mishit.  In fact, it's those mishits that are the biggest reason I decided to move toward forged iron.  

    How do you know if you're doing something wrong or need to make improvements if your mishits have similar, if the same results as your center-face hits?   

    From my point-of-view, I'd side with forward-progression.  Go with the AP2s, if you are serious about improving and taking your game to the next level.  Forged irons will definitely highlight the flaws in you game and/or swing.  If deficiencies are exposed, work to effectively address them and you may possibly enjoy your investment for seasons to come.  Furthermore, the AP2s will provide you better distance control and greater consistency.

    Conversely, if you are a recreation golfer not really interested in further challenges or have limited time to practice and become well-acquianted with the AP2s, then the AP1s might be better suited. As they should closely parallel that of your R7s.

    As for me, when I disclosed my "handicap" the Titleist rep immediately recommended the AP1s.  However, as we went through the fitting process, he took notice of my swing and consistent ball-striking, and grew convinced that I would have a pleasurable experience with the AP2 - though my initial desire was to get the CBs2.

  7. Thanks for the input! I am serious about my game and try to play around 4 times a week. I took a look at the AP1's but it just doesn't catch my eye or appeal as the AP2's. Im looking for a sleeker head and skinner profile that the AP2 brings.

  8. Marc J

    Marc J
    Glendale Heights, IL

    I hoped my response helped.  I can relate to the look at address.  The AP2s definitely are more appealing and inspire a degree of confidence.  Also, for me, the sleeker appearance promotes better focus on my ball striking, as there is a much smaller face for which to make contact.  So far I am rather pleased with my decision.

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