716 AP2 vs 716 T-MB

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By Bigcat

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  1. Bigcat

    Bigcat
    Glasgow, KY

    It was explained to me by a salesperson that the T-MB is more forgiving up and down the face, while the AP2 is more forgiving heel to toe. I am curious as to why the Tungsten was left in the 8-PW in the T-MB, but taken out of the AP2 as I have read and seen in reviews that the reason it was taken out was because it has little benefit in the short irons. Also, I have read where the T-MB launches higher but spins less than the AP2. I would be curious to know if in testing the apex of the two are similar. I am torn between these two sets, and full sets of the T-MB for testing are scarce. Just trying to make an informed decision.
  2. Cath D.

    Cath D.
    Carlsbad, CA

    The T-MB has tungsten in the 3-9 iron and none in the PW and the AP2 irons have tungsten in the 3-7 only. Although, the two heads may look similar in size and shape, they are made differently. The T-MB has a hollow cast body with a face insert and the AP2 is a multimaterial forging.  As such, they have different targets for mass properties and use different methods of weighting to achieve these targets.  The T-MB lofts are stronger and they have a faster face whereas the AP2 irons have more MOI.  Tough decision, but I don't think you can go wrong with either choice!

  3. Bigcat

    Bigcat
    Glasgow, KY

    Cathi,

    How has the T-MB performed with players that don't need help with launch?

    I have seen reviews with the 4 iron that was yielding higher ball speeds with less spin, and I guess I am just curious if this has been the effect you have seen in testing. I do not need help with launch, but am interested in the increased ball speeds and forgiveness that the T-MB appears to offer.

    Thanks again for your response!

  4. Cath D.

    Cath D.
    Carlsbad, CA

    For those players that do not need help with launch, the AP2 short and mid irons and the T-MB longer irons seemed to be the direction they moved towards.  The AP2 has a higher MOI (more forgiveness) than the T-MB. The T-MB will launch higher with faster ball speeds and less spin than the AP2. 

  5. Chris92009

    Chris92009
    Ohio

    While I have tried the T-MB's, I decided to go with the AP2's for my entire set...

    FWIW, to me the AP2's felt more solid.

    On a sidenote, I have been playing AP2's for the last 4 generations if that makes a difference...the 716's are the biggest difference I have felt and played!

  6. jackie d

    jackie d
    tulsa, OK

    Bigtcat, I can tell you that I have played AP2's since they came out I went to AP2's from 735's and I have always loved them. I have carried my 735 2 iron since 2007 and this year I hit the T-MB during a fitting and now I have the 4 and 5 iron in the T-MB they are aweosme during my fitting the 4 iron and 5 iron launched a little higher and a little longer than the AP2. I was thinking of a combo set between AP2's and CB but once I hit the T-mb I was sold !!! I would recomend a combo set T-MB longer irons and AP2's sorter irons but this is just my opinion hope it helps.

  7. Drew26

    Drew26
    Peachtree City, GA

    Cathi, Titleist Club Concierge said:

    The T-MB has tungsten in the 3-9 iron and none in the PW and the AP2 irons have tungsten in the 3-7 only. Although, the two heads may look similar in size and shape, they are made differently. The T-MB has a hollow cast body with a face insert and the AP2 is a multimaterial forging.  As such, they have different targets for mass properties and use different methods of weighting to achieve these targets.  The T-MB lofts are stronger and they have a faster face whereas the AP2 irons have more MOI.  Tough decision, but I don't think you can go wrong with either choice!

    Hi Cathi, I know this is an old thread but I'm looking at purchasing a full set of T-MBs and need some clarification please.

    Am I correct in my understanding that the T-MBs DO have the tungsten weighting in the 2-9 irons but NOT in the P & W?

    I ask because I'm trying to decide if there is a noted advantage in playing the T-MB P & W or just playing the 2-9 and using my Vokey SM5 46* & 50* for P & W.

    Thanks as always!
  8. Cath D.

    Cath D.
    Carlsbad, CA

    Hi Drew, You are correct - the T-MB has tungsten in the 2-9 iron, but not the P & W. The T-MB P & W will go higher with less spin than a Vokey (assuming you match everything else, grip, length, loft and shaft) Whether that works better for you is dependent on your game. The Vokeys will have an advantage in that it is more versatile on creative shots.
  9. Drew26

    Drew26
    Peachtree City, GA

    Thank you Cathi!

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